tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5863580044898821386.post7935626016958931627..comments2023-05-17T06:09:57.307-04:00Comments on Flip Flops, Glitter, and Theology: Unique (I Think) Challenges for Female TheologiansL.http://www.blogger.com/profile/00106478277540160841noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5863580044898821386.post-85405155799914633292015-06-30T12:08:11.284-04:002015-06-30T12:08:11.284-04:00(thumbs up)(thumbs up)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5863580044898821386.post-34599691280268704362015-06-30T11:25:34.637-04:002015-06-30T11:25:34.637-04:00Thank you. I certainly appreciate how you go out ...Thank you. I certainly appreciate how you go out of your way.L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00753340371900142282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5863580044898821386.post-81148644581483951702015-06-30T11:20:07.256-04:002015-06-30T11:20:07.256-04:00Bryan -
Thanks for this. I think it is astoundi...Bryan - <br /><br />Thanks for this. I think it is astounding, in the Church of the Nazarene, how many people have not experienced a female pastor, even though we are (at least in policy) a really female pastor friendly denomination. <br /><br />I don't want to take away from the positive response you made here, in any way, but I do want to point something out about our language of inclusiveness or exclusiveness, in general. You said, "I have no problem with women being ordained pastors". Again, thank you. I really do appreciate that. However, I wonder how strangely someone would look at me if I said, "I have no problem with men being ordained pastors." I think the look would be something between, "You just grew a second head," and "Why would you need to say something like that?"<br /><br />Now, I know I set myself up for it with this post, but what I would really love to see, in the future, is a church where no one even thinks about the differences between having a man as a pastor or a woman as a pastor. Perhaps I'm living in a dream world. There are challenges in ministry for both men and women, and the ones I outlined, here, are probably not going to go away. But I sure wish they would. <br /><br />I guess I decided that education, in this case, was better than ignoring that the issues exist, and I appreciate the support in that. I wonder what we can do to make the challenges less prominent moving forward. L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00753340371900142282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5863580044898821386.post-17364455617770587642015-06-30T11:10:32.008-04:002015-06-30T11:10:32.008-04:00Cheryl -
This is an interesting comment and I re...Cheryl - <br /><br />This is an interesting comment and I really appreciate your thoughts on calling being important. I am curious, though, how do you reconcile being in the "women should not be pastors" camp if a woman is called to be a pastor?L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00753340371900142282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5863580044898821386.post-37755876607129339042015-06-30T09:31:31.453-04:002015-06-30T09:31:31.453-04:00I know the challenges are immense, because I have ...I know the challenges are immense, because I have watched you face them, firsthand. I pray for the day when these are no longer challenges for women in ministry of for anyone, but everything is simply...normal. <br /><br />You wrote, "Sometimes you're going to say something you wish you could get back. It's OK. You could drive yourself crazy over analyzing every interaction. Don't do it. It's not worth it. Chances are excellent that you are way more worried about this than anybody else."<br /><br />This is great advice for anyone, women or men. <br /><br />It's definitely tough in the ways you suggest regarding two theologians in the same house. And I think both men and women going into ministry need to consider these words, because *they all* need to be prepared to handle the frustration of other people looking past their spouse when the spouse is the most appropriate person to talk to, yet is treated like they are invisible. <br /><br />But let's face it, 99% of the time the female is the one who gets overlooked. It's wrong. So it's important for the male to go out of his way to correct those wrongs insofar as he can, and for the female to not get frustrated at the male rather than the ones who are walking past her like she is invisible.philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17234297775933507796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5863580044898821386.post-1520009721635022122015-06-29T12:58:52.438-04:002015-06-29T12:58:52.438-04:00I am 51 years old, and have not had the opportunit...I am 51 years old, and have not had the opportunity to sit under the leadership of a female Pastor. Let's be honest though, if the ladies throughout the history of the Nazarene church had not taken many leadership roles in the church, not a lot of ministry would have happened! I have no problem with women being ordained pastors. Keep up the good work, Lisa. I have enjoyed your theological discussions, even if I disagree with some of your viewpoints. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5863580044898821386.post-38723473636848427192015-06-29T11:45:06.586-04:002015-06-29T11:45:06.586-04:00Thanks for being real and sharing your heart, Lisa...Thanks for being real and sharing your heart, Lisa!! While I do agree with the "women should not be pastors" camp, I also feel there is MUCH more out there than just pastor that God can use a trained and willing woman to do!! Ie: Lisa Cherry at Frontline Ministries, and everyone knows Beth Moore- I've even heard a male pastor say she's a better preacher than many men!! LOL Keep your eyes on HIM and seeking what HE has called you to do!!! *hugs*Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11018087064538080810noreply@blogger.com